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if you google bermuda tax shelter, you probably get google as the top result. >> indeed. well, news today that google is using bermuda to its tax advantage. and in a very big way. the internet giant is steering $10 billion in overseas profits in the islands nation. therefore avoiding about $2 billion in taxes worldwide. guess what, it is all legal. it benefits the company's bottom line. but opens the company up for criticism. let's bring in ben schacter. saying it's the fiduciary duty that google has to their shareholders. while david callahan says such strategies could hurt the brand. great to have you with us. ben, let me get to you today. we'll get into the ethics in a second. but you say it is good for shareholders. >> i think it's what they have to do. it's their fiduciary duty to protect shareholders and pay as low a tax rate as they legally can. and in this case, that is what they're doing. >> but ethically it feels a little dirty, doesn't it? if all these american companies are hiding their revenues elsewhere. >> i think this is what they have to do. they have leg
if you google bermuda tax shelter, you probably get google as the top result. >> indeed. well, news today that google is using bermuda to its tax advantage. and in a very big way. the internet giant is steering $10 billion in overseas profits in the islands nation. therefore avoiding about $2 billion in taxes worldwide. guess what, it is all legal. it benefits the company's bottom line. but opens the company up for criticism. let's bring in ben schacter. saying it's the fiduciary duty...
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but friday they soared on rumors involving google. right now, groupon is giving back a lot of that gain. down almost 8 1/4%. what is going on? >> well, google might be interested in buying groupon. we are seeing gains given back today because a report came out from evercorps, an analyst, saying that he saw no basis to these reports and sees no reason why google would want to buy groupon. so looks like stocks are coming back to earth. there are concerns about its fundamental business model as it tries to expand beyond the deal a day business, that's its core business. >> julia, thank you very much. >>> google stashing billions in off-shore accounts to save a few bucks in taxes and what the deal with jc penney? are they having deals or not? we will discuss it more when we come back. stay with us. [ male announcer ] this is steve. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't n
but friday they soared on rumors involving google. right now, groupon is giving back a lot of that gain. down almost 8 1/4%. what is going on? >> well, google might be interested in buying groupon. we are seeing gains given back today because a report came out from evercorps, an analyst, saying that he saw no basis to these reports and sees no reason why google would want to buy groupon. so looks like stocks are coming back to earth. there are concerns about its fundamental business model...
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what's the trade on google, pete? >> i like google, but i still think when you look at yahoo!, one of this things we talked about recently is, how yahoo! is actually starting to steal back some of that search. who are they stealing it from? they are taking some of it from google. i like this yahoo! story right now. i think you have more upside. >> amen. >> all right. >> we talk about it for awhile now. >> we have. we have. >> jane? >> all right, finally, this john mcafee story is right out of hollywood. we need to start casting the movie. one likely candidate is vladic sheybal who played dr. boogalow. but i found the late, great roy shader, seen as bob fossey in "all that jazz." unfortunately, they are both dead. so, casting remains open. i see on the set one person with facial hair and i think -- if pete had a really, really, really hard weekend, monday morning, he could play john mcafee. >> i had a rough one this weekend, as a matter of fact. boy, that was tough. >> little extra time with tequila mocking bird. >> meggings were too tight? >> no meggings here. >> have you hear
what's the trade on google, pete? >> i like google, but i still think when you look at yahoo!, one of this things we talked about recently is, how yahoo! is actually starting to steal back some of that search. who are they stealing it from? they are taking some of it from google. i like this yahoo! story right now. i think you have more upside. >> amen. >> all right. >> we talk about it for awhile now. >> we have. we have. >> jane? >> all right,...
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the difference between apple and google is they're not public about it. we don't know what they're working on other than these p patent filings. trust me, they're working on big, new, exciting things. even wearable computers. >> let's hope. we haven't seen them though. maybe. >> it just occurred to me, we talk about tim cook versus steve jobs and is the company different and how is it different and all that. is it possible, max, that shareholders think they are still investing in steve jobs' apple rather than tim cook's apple? >> absolutely. >> is that why we've seen this 23% decline in the stock recently as some of that is starting to dawn on them? >> absolutely. i'll do you one better. it's a great question. i think analysts still think they're forecasting and following steve jobs' growth. the bad news is that it's the wrong model. that era has ended. there's lots of exciting things to do. the story is not over. the future is potentially very bright. folks need to move away from maintaining the margin and benchmark everything against steve jobs. the mar
the difference between apple and google is they're not public about it. we don't know what they're working on other than these p patent filings. trust me, they're working on big, new, exciting things. even wearable computers. >> let's hope. we haven't seen them though. maybe. >> it just occurred to me, we talk about tim cook versus steve jobs and is the company different and how is it different and all that. is it possible, max, that shareholders think they are still investing in...
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writes make a tv in which the sound does not go up for commercials and i'll be the first is a-to-say google will copy apple if they are successful, samit bhatt. now we have scott wapner and "fast money." >>> welcome to "the halftime show." four hours to go until the close. green arrows across the board. 13,041 the dow jones industrial average, all of the major averages in the green. here's what we're following on "halftime" target practice with its prediction for 2012 now within reach, jpmorgan's tom lee on the market's next move. net gain, netflix shares up again as the company rides the halo of its disney deal. where is the next stop? one stock, two opinions in a halftime debate. first our top story the sudden sell-off in shares of apple, after posting its worst trading day in four years, the stock is rebounding but has still lost more than $35 billion in market cap over the past few days. jon fortt is in silicon valley with the latest, the worst performance of three days since 2008. what is the buzz in the valley? >> we've heard multiple theories why the stock has been falling, people se
writes make a tv in which the sound does not go up for commercials and i'll be the first is a-to-say google will copy apple if they are successful, samit bhatt. now we have scott wapner and "fast money." >>> welcome to "the halftime show." four hours to go until the close. green arrows across the board. 13,041 the dow jones industrial average, all of the major averages in the green. here's what we're following on "halftime" target practice with its...
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google unveiling its new map for the iphone after given the boot by apple. who will win this battle? and shares of best buy, moving up by, look at that, nearly 15% today. reports its founder could make a take over offer for that retailer, but is that the best move? my partner, sue herera at the new york stock exchange for us. sue? >> ty, it is a little bit after down side bias today. investors are losing enthusiasm over the fed's move. and more specifically, the employment rate. right now, the dow is down 57 points on the trading session. most of that drop cake after mr. boehner made comments about the continues impasse in trying to resolve the fiscal cliff. s&p down 23, down three quarters percent. and the nasdaq is down about half a percent. bob joins me on the floor of the nyse. the market is very undecided about what is happening in washington. what the feds know that perhaps we don't know. >> we are getting smacked around by these two separate events. the fiscal cliff as well as aftermath of what went on with the fed. i think the fed is still very impor
google unveiling its new map for the iphone after given the boot by apple. who will win this battle? and shares of best buy, moving up by, look at that, nearly 15% today. reports its founder could make a take over offer for that retailer, but is that the best move? my partner, sue herera at the new york stock exchange for us. sue? >> ty, it is a little bit after down side bias today. investors are losing enthusiasm over the fed's move. and more specifically, the employment rate. right...
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neither google nor apple responded to requests for comment. >> all right. let's get out to kayla tausche again. we're hearing the treasury is going to sell the remaining $240 million worth of aig shares? >> that's correct. we're seeing those headlines just hit the wire now. it's 234 million shares. that's roughly $8 billion. that's the last of the treasury's investment in aig. they will launch a fully public offering. roughly 16% of aig shares. this is a mayjor coupe for the government. still at 33 bucks even though it's down after-hours up from the re-ipo after the financial crisis. >> and it's something that will make the ceo very, very happy. the last couple times he's been on this program, he has been campaigning publicly for the government to do just that. he wants them off his balance sheet and off his back. >> it was an unpopular risk to begin with. so brings this all into the era. >> as kayla pointed out, it turned out to be profitable for the country. >> absolutely. >>> in the meantime, death tax would jump. we talk about why it might cost someone'
neither google nor apple responded to requests for comment. >> all right. let's get out to kayla tausche again. we're hearing the treasury is going to sell the remaining $240 million worth of aig shares? >> that's correct. we're seeing those headlines just hit the wire now. it's 234 million shares. that's roughly $8 billion. that's the last of the treasury's investment in aig. they will launch a fully public offering. roughly 16% of aig shares. this is a mayjor coupe for the...
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and i do believe they're in acquisition target potentially, whether it be for microsoft or comcast or google or potentially an app. >> weiss, what about the risk factors? >> they're meaningless in terms of the fundamentals of the company. all it's going to be is a fine. it's not like there's fraud or anything like that. there's no restatement of earnings or neanything else comg in. balance sheet. just ignore that nuisance. it gets your names in the headlines a little bit more. in terms of the company and the fundamentals, my concern is they're overpaying for content. they're going to have to raise capital next year and i don't think somebody can come in and buy them. >> we'll move on and talk about the market. ross kosterich joins us live from san francisco. ros russ, nice to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> if there's coal in apple's market can santa claus have a rally? >> the stock can move higher without apple but to state the obvious, it's a big chunk. it's certainly going to help if apple participates but i think the reality is apple along with the rest of the stock market is still
and i do believe they're in acquisition target potentially, whether it be for microsoft or comcast or google or potentially an app. >> weiss, what about the risk factors? >> they're meaningless in terms of the fundamentals of the company. all it's going to be is a fine. it's not like there's fraud or anything like that. there's no restatement of earnings or neanything else comg in. balance sheet. just ignore that nuisance. it gets your names in the headlines a little bit more. in...
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the google map is now available as a download from appel itunes. you can get it for free. >> and the big question was, a, was google going to make it and, b, was apple going to accept it? we were at the conference yesterday. there was a lot of discussion about that issue. >> it might be easier to list who wasn't at your conference. >> you know, you were invited to the conference. >> i was. i had something else to do. >> what did you have to do yesterday? >> wash my hair. no, i had a -- no, i would have come. i did. i had a lunch. >> it was in the city. >> no. >> you were so close, you came across the bridge? >> i also had to meet with my style team. >> okay. >> my style is lacking, apparently. >> another historic night at madison square garden and the 12-12-12 concert brought relief for hurricane sandy. the sold-out show lasted nearly six hours and was said to have reached an audience of two billion, with a b, people around the world. it was broadcast over tv, radio, internet, quite a night if you were lucky enough to have a ticket. i was actually
the google map is now available as a download from appel itunes. you can get it for free. >> and the big question was, a, was google going to make it and, b, was apple going to accept it? we were at the conference yesterday. there was a lot of discussion about that issue. >> it might be easier to list who wasn't at your conference. >> you know, you were invited to the conference. >> i was. i had something else to do. >> what did you have to do yesterday? >>...
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remember, i hope you'll follow me on twitter and google plus. stay with cnbc, because "fast money" begins right now. see you back in new york tomorrow. >> and this is mission krill call, rise above washington, d.c. we're going to get to "fast money" in just a moment. but we've got to talk about what is going on here. you just heard maria's observation. she is not confident that a deal will get done. sadly, i feel the same way. especially after speaking with numerous lawmakers today. everybody seems very firmly entrenched, although eamon with the news just a moment ago that john boehner has indeed sent the president a counter offer, though republicans, to a man, complained today that they do not know what cuts the democrats would like to make. senator harry reid coming out earlier today, saying, we're not going to offer up any cuts. we want the gop to put their cuts on the table. it is clear it is a game of finger pointing, which party is going to be made to look like the bad guys, because somebody's going to have to tell somebody no. that is cer
remember, i hope you'll follow me on twitter and google plus. stay with cnbc, because "fast money" begins right now. see you back in new york tomorrow. >> and this is mission krill call, rise above washington, d.c. we're going to get to "fast money" in just a moment. but we've got to talk about what is going on here. you just heard maria's observation. she is not confident that a deal will get done. sadly, i feel the same way. especially after speaking with numerous...
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google stock in frankfurt down 0.4%. and after several days of public pronouncements and posturing, budget talks have privately resume between the staff of john boehner and the white house. this breaks a near week long silence between the two sides as the deadline to avoid the fiscal cliff looms. president obama and boehner spoke by phone on wednesday and promised to renew the negotiations. hurricane sandy expected to put a big dent in the u.s. jobs report out at 8:30 eastern. nonfarm payrolls are forecast to have risen just 80,000, versus 171,000 in october. it would be the smallest job growth in five months. sandy which truck strustruck at of october battered the east coast, but economists expect a snap back in december. unemployment forecast to hold steady at 7.9%. and besides the jobs report, other items on the agenda in the united states, two other pieces of economic data, the first is the read on december consumer sentiment, due out at 9:55 eastern. forecasts call for sentiment to slip to 82 this month down nearly
google stock in frankfurt down 0.4%. and after several days of public pronouncements and posturing, budget talks have privately resume between the staff of john boehner and the white house. this breaks a near week long silence between the two sides as the deadline to avoid the fiscal cliff looms. president obama and boehner spoke by phone on wednesday and promised to renew the negotiations. hurricane sandy expected to put a big dent in the u.s. jobs report out at 8:30 eastern. nonfarm payrolls...
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now, google has released a new downloadable maps app for the iphone. this comes after am removed google maps in favor of its own software. that app led to an apology from app apple's ceo tim cook. the new map allows for turn by turn basis. it is available for download now from the itunes apps store. both apple and google shares are down about .5% and that is in line with what we're seeing in the broader index. so now, american airlines critters reportedly would prefer an all-stock merger with rival us airways. reports say a sdis decision by amr on whether to pursue a deal or remain a stand alone company is expected next month. america filed for bankruptcy last year. amr critters would own 730% of the airlines with a value of potentially $8.5 billion. >>> and jeffrey the ga rav won't be getting out much over the next few weeks. for the third straight year, toys r us says it will keep stores over 24/7 to 10:00 p.m. on christmas eve. the retailer's flagship store has been opened around the clock since december 2nd. toys r us joins macy's on the late shift
now, google has released a new downloadable maps app for the iphone. this comes after am removed google maps in favor of its own software. that app led to an apology from app apple's ceo tim cook. the new map allows for turn by turn basis. it is available for download now from the itunes apps store. both apple and google shares are down about .5% and that is in line with what we're seeing in the broader index. so now, american airlines critters reportedly would prefer an all-stock merger with...
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this has been disrupted by new players like square and paypal and google. the stock has been hit, but our fund manager we talked to think it's been unfairly hit. any time an industry is being disrupted, that's a good opportunity. >> u.s. bancorp? >> this is an old fashioned bank. focuses on deposits and loans and wealth management. none of the other stuff that can get you into trouble. this is one our clients really liked. >> this year dividend plays have been huge. everyone is looking for income. they look to these companies that have a good yield. the two that came through here were ford and, as it happens, our majority owner comcast. >> yes. so ford, you know, the auto recovery story is pretty significant. it's still happening. cars on the road are older. the replacement rate is going to go up. with ford, it has a rock-solid balance sheet. its dividend yield, we think, could go up. comcast is interesting. not because it's the boss' of "closing bell," it has a new revenue stream in nbc universal, which is up 32% in the third quarter because of the olympic
this has been disrupted by new players like square and paypal and google. the stock has been hit, but our fund manager we talked to think it's been unfairly hit. any time an industry is being disrupted, that's a good opportunity. >> u.s. bancorp? >> this is an old fashioned bank. focuses on deposits and loans and wealth management. none of the other stuff that can get you into trouble. this is one our clients really liked. >> this year dividend plays have been huge. everyone...
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respond to any of the juicy questions like whether the company needs new leadership or friday's report google is interested in groupon which sent it skyrocketing. given up gains, about 15% since friday. mason stressing groupon strength in mobile, a third his transactions on mobile devices saying mobile customers spend more and are more loyal. sue, over to you. >> thank you. time for the "power lunch" rundown. welcome, gentlemen. first up treasury selling remaining aig shares and nets $22.7 billion in the process. a nice tidy sumbu it took a while and it was a lot of hard work to get that. >> yes, the question for historians to debate is whether or not the success of this aig bail ott will encourage future generations of lawmakers to say, hey, you know what, last trim we made $22 billion. let's do it again. it seems to work. that's the question from now until the next major financial collapse. i hope that's a long time from now but it's something to think about. >> i want to put out $22 billion sounds like a lot of money but only about a 3% return per year. the treasury really isn't as great a
respond to any of the juicy questions like whether the company needs new leadership or friday's report google is interested in groupon which sent it skyrocketing. given up gains, about 15% since friday. mason stressing groupon strength in mobile, a third his transactions on mobile devices saying mobile customers spend more and are more loyal. sue, over to you. >> thank you. time for the "power lunch" rundown. welcome, gentlemen. first up treasury selling remaining aig shares and...
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. >> they are going up against google, they are revamping their apps, what's going to be ironic is when they get a takeout bid when the stock travels up to 30 bucks again. >> all right, jane. >> all right. the pope will want to know that instagram doesn't support twitter and yahoo! does because he just sent his first tweet. o-m-g, and not the g in vain. dear friends. i am pleased to get in touch with you through twitter. i bless all of you from my heart he has already a million followers. but he is following seven on twitter. who? actually just seven of himself in different languages. even if the pope's tweeting, how long before twitter is public? >> why does he need to follow himself if he knows what he has tweeted because he tweeted it? >> i -- >> not that good with the thing. >> papal trinity thing, i -- >> um -- twitter, public? thoughts? >> to me, i've said this, i think facebook has a ton of problems. if you woke up tomorrow morning, they said they were going to use their $10 billion in cash plus stock to buy twiter, you would have that stock back up to the ipo price like that. >>
. >> they are going up against google, they are revamping their apps, what's going to be ironic is when they get a takeout bid when the stock travels up to 30 bucks again. >> all right, jane. >> all right. the pope will want to know that instagram doesn't support twitter and yahoo! does because he just sent his first tweet. o-m-g, and not the g in vain. dear friends. i am pleased to get in touch with you through twitter. i bless all of you from my heart he has already a...
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apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the ipad mini isn't selling, the imac is done, there's no special dividend, we've got a stock chart that is the -- >> sell, sell, sell, sell! >> excuse me for a moment while i get nauseated. apple went down today because it's a big dollar amount stock and it makes a ton of economic sense to ring the register before year-end. why do i always say about apple? own it. shocker. how about citigroup? this company's crushed shareholders for many, many years, but this new management team, you've got to hand it to them for taking tough medicine right before the holidays, firing 11,000 people, shutting down underperforming operations around the globe. no, i don't want to work there, and i feel terrible at the layoffs. i've got a ton of friends over at citi, but i would be happy if i were a shareholder. the stock went up on the news. never easy to change your mind. something we're asking of our politicians, they can't do that. but citigroup's management was willing to take the hard medicine for
apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the ipad mini isn't selling, the imac is done, there's no special dividend, we've got a stock chart that is the -- >> sell, sell, sell, sell! >> excuse me for a moment while i get nauseated. apple went down today because it's a big dollar amount stock and it makes a ton of economic sense to ring the register before year-end. why do i always say about apple? own it. shocker. how...
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but google is like that. and i got you. >> and you got me and i fell for it and i should have known. >> oh, man. coming up, a live report from rome. >> i should know better. how long have i been sitting next to you? >> why europe is paying close attention to who will follow mario monti as italy's prime minister. >>> but here at home, a very big difference between president obama's first inauguration and the one being planned for next month. details when we run. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. if you're a man w
but google is like that. and i got you. >> and you got me and i fell for it and i should have known. >> oh, man. coming up, a live report from rome. >> i should know better. how long have i been sitting next to you? >> why europe is paying close attention to who will follow mario monti as italy's prime minister. >>> but here at home, a very big difference between president obama's first inauguration and the one being planned for next month. details when we run....
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and decided online education is next and google didn't want to do it and we're backing him and it will be fun to see. >> marc andreessen, thank you for being here. send it back to the studios. >> this is embarrassing. she is like throwing herself at the camera. i've never seen this side of you. >> there's so few voices willing to say what he said out loud. >> andrew, we asked him to guest host. he can talk the disrupter stuff and politics. >> he's the ultimate disrupter. >> another guy came out. will you do that? >> marc? >> we will have him come out. he's on his way back. >> becky will be back by then so you don't have to worry about me. >> right. exactly. got it. >> she'll leave the ring. >> need some muscle to keep you away. >>> the weird thing with twitter you have only tweeted in your career 709 times. >> you're tracking me? >> no, i just looked. i don't know why they picked me. they must like the silent. i guess less is more because we're not big tweeters, the two of us. >> hold on. while we are on this topic and before he goes, marc andreessen not only has an investment but has
and decided online education is next and google didn't want to do it and we're backing him and it will be fun to see. >> marc andreessen, thank you for being here. send it back to the studios. >> this is embarrassing. she is like throwing herself at the camera. i've never seen this side of you. >> there's so few voices willing to say what he said out loud. >> andrew, we asked him to guest host. he can talk the disrupter stuff and politics. >> he's the ultimate...
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this is after members of parliament accused the likes of starbucks, google and amazon of immorally dodging taxes in the uk. although they've done absolutely nothing illegal. steve is braving the inclement weather in the uk with more on this story. how much of a mention and a focus is this going to get with everything else, steve? >> well, isn't it wonderful, the politicians when they're running for their own lives look for another scapegoat, and who better than those u.s. corporations who aren't paying enough uk tax. but as you quite rightly said, they're doing absolutely nothing illegal and doing everything that they should do in terms of creating shareholder value. they're doing what they should do, ie looking for ways to minimize their tax burden, increase their profit and potentially increase the special dividends no those u.s. investors will be getting ahead of the fiscal cliff. but let's get another view of this. gary richards is a senior corporate tax partner. that's the point. these american companies who are evading taxes who the politicians want to come down on, they're doing not
this is after members of parliament accused the likes of starbucks, google and amazon of immorally dodging taxes in the uk. although they've done absolutely nothing illegal. steve is braving the inclement weather in the uk with more on this story. how much of a mention and a focus is this going to get with everything else, steve? >> well, isn't it wonderful, the politicians when they're running for their own lives look for another scapegoat, and who better than those u.s. corporations who...
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google at 64%. that's important to note. the reason why these companies have so much cash overseas is that they've been global growth stories. when microsoft sells product overseas the proceeds go into accounts over there. don't come to the u.s. unless microsoft needs to buy something here. you can see it plays out in a company like apple, too, where international launches and international retail expansion have become far more important than the u.s. where growth is concerned. just five years ago apple had 58% of its cash in the u.s. this is actually a big issue for a company like cisco where john chambers has been very straightforward about saying if the federal government lets us repay treeuate this cash, bring it to the u.s. without a big penalty, we'll use it to hire and grow in this country. if not we'll hire less and, by the way, keep making bigger overseas acquisitions, too. all of this gets a bit dicier when you consider a lot of u.s. companies have gotten pretty good at avoiding tax on international sales by using
google at 64%. that's important to note. the reason why these companies have so much cash overseas is that they've been global growth stories. when microsoft sells product overseas the proceeds go into accounts over there. don't come to the u.s. unless microsoft needs to buy something here. you can see it plays out in a company like apple, too, where international launches and international retail expansion have become far more important than the u.s. where growth is concerned. just five years...
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by analysts a forecast by an influential research firm suggesting the iphone iphone is giving up to google's headlines. apple accounts for the entirely of the mass dnasdaq's fall of 1. apple is enjoying its best day since early last week. didn't close on its highs but equities up 8% points or so. futures back in positive territory, up 15 and down and up five or so. everybody's watching what's going on in d.c. overnight in asia it was mixed but not big moves sni where, japan had a good day and in europe we have green roar rows yesterday morning which pour tended good things for us here, germany doing the best. >> as expect the bank of england and european central banks left their ratings unchanged. mario draghi will hold his post meeting news conference. steve liesman has more exclusive raults from our all-america economic survey. >> what do people think about the fiscal cliff. consumer confidence has remind high. business confidence is down so the first thing we want to know, that's not the right chart, we want to do on whether or not people heard about the fiscal cliff. have you heard of it
by analysts a forecast by an influential research firm suggesting the iphone iphone is giving up to google's headlines. apple accounts for the entirely of the mass dnasdaq's fall of 1. apple is enjoying its best day since early last week. didn't close on its highs but equities up 8% points or so. futures back in positive territory, up 15 and down and up five or so. everybody's watching what's going on in d.c. overnight in asia it was mixed but not big moves sni where, japan had a good day and...